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thank you
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hello Dr Seema Segal so you are a
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practicing psychiatrist in Fremont can
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you give me a little bit of introduction
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about you
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sure
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um rupali it's so good to do this again
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with you I'm a psychiatrist in practice
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in Fremont and I have over about 25
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years of practice dealing with a wide
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range of mental health disorders from
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The Chronic severely ill people who have
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schizophrenia bipolar disorder severe
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depression with or without psychosis all
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the way to people with dealing with
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anxiety generalized social anxiety
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and everything in between so I'm so
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happy to have this opportunity to
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educate and share some of my experiences
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with your viewers thank you so much so
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today we were going to tackle some of
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the stories that have been shared on a
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platform and one of the questions I had
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about growing up in a family where one
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of the family member or a parent or a
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sibling has some kind of a mental
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illness
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so what are some of the emotional
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responses that a child when they grow up
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in this kind of a household what are
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they feeling
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you know this is
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um a really really important topic
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rupali because I see patients who either
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as youngsters have grown up in our
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family where one parent or a family
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member has suffered you know a major
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mental illness and they themselves have
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then grown up you know to have
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um sort of difficulties and challenges
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with their own mental health as they you
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know went into adult life but as a child
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some of the emotions that you know they
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can feel is
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a spectrum that can include fear
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confusion worry uh feelings of guilt
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feelings of Shame not understanding
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really what is happening uh within the
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family uh within the family system
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because you know one family member it
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could be a parent it could be a sibling
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is suffering from a major mental illness
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which is a really disruptive event in
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the family and uh you know depending on
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the age of the child when they are
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exposed to this the responses can also
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vary because if you think about it you
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know the maximum time of brain
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development is happening till the age of
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five and at that time the most essential
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um you know things that the growing
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toddler needs is bonding strong
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attachments continuity consistency
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dependability predictability of the
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parental figure being there and when
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this is disrupted it can lead to a
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variety of mental health challenges
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if it is an older child if it's an
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adolescent at that age what you need is
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you want parental approval you want
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reassurances you want structure you want
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sort of the uh you know the accolades
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from your parents that you're doing a
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good job because you're building your
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self-esteem and self-worth in this time
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so uh you know depending where you are
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in your own development when you have to
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face something like this in the family
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the responses can vary
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yeah wow that is
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I mean you know the stories that we have
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done I think it's really important to
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hear what you just said so even for a
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partner or a spouse who is supporting
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um a partner who has mental illness
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right how do they take care of
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themselves you know how do they keep
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their sanity and what are the signs that
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they need help if it yeah um you know
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this is an important question because
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again
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um you know unfortunately in this
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country and in many others there is not
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the concept of treating the whole family
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you know as one unit because you can
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imagine how disruptive it is for every
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member of the family and the you know
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family system is a very closed system so
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stress in one part of that system
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automatically impacts every other you
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know piece of that system and the the
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spouse or the well parent you know if
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you will uh ends up having uh to carry
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double the burden of not just taking
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care of you know his or her spouse who
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is struggling or suffering and needing
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their help but also making sure that the
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children are doing fine and keeping
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their school and activities going along
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with their job because Financial
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insecurity becomes a real issue when
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there is Parental Mental Health
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challenges so as a result of this there
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is a high risk of caregiver burnout
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there is a high risk of you know the
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well-parent not even being aware that
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they need help and support of their own
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so some of the you know signs to watch
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out for are lack of sleep irritability
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you know snapping at the parent or the
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spouse absenteeism from from work
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because you're too tired to really show
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up at work difficulty focusing attending
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concentrating on your work tasks uh
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sometimes the men will resort to
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substance use or maladaptive ways to
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deal with this amount of stress so
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anything that signals to you that you
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are not at your Baseline not where you
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are used to normally finding yourself
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every day is something to be aware of
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and so to have you know supports for
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yourself in place having a trusted
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friend or family member it could be you
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know a friend at work it could be a
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family member here or in India even
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someone from your religious community
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sometimes can step up to you know help
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and for that it's really important to
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talk about your struggles because people
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can't help you if they don't know what's
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happening with you yeah yeah no I think
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I totally agree about talking about it
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and I think that's why we are also
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creating this whole platform about
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sharing stories
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so that really validates it let me ask
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you one more question so that you talked
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about the wellspouse but what about the
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children right as they are growing
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growing up what do they carry over when
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they become an adult right like if they
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have a parent like what are you know
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thought let's talk about a little bit of
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impact on these children as an adult
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okay you know that again is an important
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uh point because uh I always feel that a
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penny of prevention is better than an
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ounce of you know of cure and you want
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to come in and prevent mental illness
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from occurring in the first place so you
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know mental hygiene mental health is not
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the absence of mental illness it's about
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what we do every single day to keep
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ourselves mentally well and when a child
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is growing up in an environment where
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there is not Clarity of what is
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happening you know around them all they
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can see is that there is
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unpredictability they don't understand
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what's happening there are difficult
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emotions you know in the home parents
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look worried uh nobody's talking about
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where the worry is coming from they see
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a change in behavior in their parent or
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family member and yet they have to
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continue pretending everything is okay
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when they're outside of the house
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because they feel ashamed they have a
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sense of guilt and when there isn't open
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communication the fear generates a
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feeling in the child that in some way
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they must have been responsible for the
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distress the family is experiencing so
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this leads to low self-esteem it leads
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to a sense of you know low self-worth
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and you can see at this child you know
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goes on to become an adult not only are
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they under sort of you know have the
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risk of inheriting the mental illness
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because there is you know there are
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mental illnesses like schizophrenia
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bipolar disorder that have a very high
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uh genetic uh predisposition and so they
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have that they also have you know
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they're facing adverse childhood
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experiences their environment is not
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conducive to uh you know to giving them
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that sense of self that they can you
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know take into adult life with them so
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they are more prone a third of the
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children of parents who have a serious
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mental illness are at risk of developing
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a mental illness themselves
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so you know anxiety depression low
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self-esteem social anxiety all of these
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are you know things to watch out for as
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this child becomes an adult on the other
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hand though you know if there are
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um resources and there is help that is
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put in place for this child you know
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they are we do explain to them what's
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happening we uh we sort of let them talk
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about their fears we give them answers
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that they're looking for we Define their
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role in what is happening in the family
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that can build actually resilience
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growth we see that these children
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actually grow up to be more
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compassionate more empathic and end up
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being much more sensitive parents
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themselves to children when they have
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them so again it's really important in
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how we deal with the children as they
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are going through the stress themselves
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so when you talk about this thing right
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when you say VV as in professionals
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right the professional field of
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psychiatrists and the healthcare
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providers right that's what you mean the
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counselors you know the yes I mean that
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primarily but you know a society where
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there is so much stigma attached uh to
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talking about mental health issues
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oftentimes it ends up being family
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members that step in and have to be that
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you know de facto counselor for the
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child because access to someone trained
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to do this often doesn't happen yeah and
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so again you know if the parents are
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really sort of engaged in dealing with
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this major stress in the family to then
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enlist the help of a trusted adult which
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could again be a sports coach it could
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be you know a priest it could be a
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family member but some Dependable
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responsible trusted adult who can step
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in and be that sounding board and just
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help the child sort through what is
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happening it could be a teacher or
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counselor at school even yeah yeah great
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I'm so glad that you could answer you
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know I think it's a much needed thing
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whenever you talk to somebody about this
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everybody has like Okay so this person
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in my family has it but we don't know
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how to deal with it so I think with your
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insights I think we will be able to make
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it a little bit more uh you know
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resource friendly uh would you also
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share some of the resource at the end of
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the video uh sure sure I will and you
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know rupali I could not agree more how
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important this uh topic really is
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because you know we um talk about the
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stigma in sort of you know in a way that
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the person suffering from the mental
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illness is the one who is feeling
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stigmatized and trying to protect
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themselves from feeling stigmatized from
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society or you know even within their
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family or community and you know I
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really feel for the parents that I see
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in my practice because I'll have mothers
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who um you know have a major Mental
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Health issue that they are dealing with
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they are in treatment and yet the fear
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of being an unfit mother is somehow even
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stronger and more powerful than the
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stigma of having a mental illness and so
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a lot of times you know they will they
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will not talk about it just from the
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fear of you know Legal Services child
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protective services you know the school
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system sort of picking up that something
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is amiss in the house and they may be
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separated from their children and and
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you know I want to really emphasize the
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fact that even though these mental
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health disorders you know a lot of
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people don't know the details and how
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severe they can be I just want to
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Clearly say that they are treatable you
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know they have symptoms which when
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untreated can lead to you know a lot of
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disruptive behavior and a lot of
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symptoms that are hard to understand but
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if you educate yourself and help this
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person get the treatment they need
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oftentimes I would say about you know 70
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80 percent of the time
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we can go back to a very healthy family
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again yeah so the timely intervention is
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really the key it is it is yeah great
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thank you so much Dr Seema Segal
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appreciate your time you're welcome
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rupali and look forward to chatting
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again with you thank you
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